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Tohoshinki no History in Japan

  • May. 30th, 2008 at 12:30 AM


In the recent Star Show with DBSK as guests while everyone was going gaga over their messages to their future wife, the one and foremost segment I was interested in was actually the first and last few minutes where they talked about their time in Japan. It's the thing that defines my love for them. Without even knowing the content in the last few minutes, as the atmosphere became solemn we knew it was serious talk between the host (who is the actor to this popular period drama I can't remember right now) and DBSK.

Coincidentally over the weekend I had the chance to watch the DVD History in Japan 1 which I ordered before I left for HB and it arrived while I was away. How should I say it. Even the DVD was about DBSK, it was somewhat painful to watch. The year when they were at the peak of their popularity in Korea they went to Japan and greeted by a few hundreds of fans. They debuted with the song "Stay with me Tonight." Honestly, it's not a great debut song. In fact I hate it. There was this event where the young men had to wear these white oversized lobster tails suit (for the lack of a better term) and came on stage to a small audience. They stood there in these ridiculous outfits greeting to the fans, letting the wind blew the flowy garments shaping their package in front of the audience. Okay maybe I was being perverted but seriously I would be cursing at the designer if I was made to wear those outfits. At any rate they being the performers continued the show with singing and dancing. I cringed because they had to sing and danced in those outfits. Maybe it was just me but I found this segment the most painful to watch.

Second was a-nation. If there's a way to measure their popularity, it's none other than a-nation. It's also a way to gain new fans which is precisely the reason why they have to participate every year. Being fresh and new, it wasn't unexpected to have very few fans. In fact in the whole vast audience I saw a handful of people waving balloons and responding to their singing and dancing. Their singing, dancing and jumping seemed lost in this vast mass of an audience who had no idea who they were. I wonder how it felt like to perform with a scene like that. It's like a comedian who tells a joke but nobody laughs. But the show must go on. Even if things didn't look too encouraging, performers had to push through to the end. A-nation in 06 was a big improvement. In fact I saw quite a mass of audience responding to them when they greeted. They also felt less awkward on stage. The year where they looked most confident was of course 07. They could even hear the audience cheer for them. I saw smiles on their faces. For the first time on stage of a-nation, they actually looked like they enjoyed it and truly had fun.

Back to the last couple of minutes of the Star Show segment. Jae talked about the year of 2006 when the swept a good number of awards then came to Japan and reverted back to an amateur group singing before 100 audience. Yunho started to speak of how hard it was that they wanted to do a lot of thing but couldn't, that he was envious of other Hallyu stars who got recognition (more so without efforts like they did.) Looking at Yunho I could see that he was trying to hold his tears. It must be a period where their pride got hit pretty hard. How could their pride not got crushed in such extreme shift of mentality, one on top of everything while other at the very bottom of everything. To simply put by Jae, "if we don't have that switch we would go crazy." Now I understand why Junsu and Yoochun cried on stage while singing "Proud". It was the turning point for them. It was the time when they felt things were going the right direction and that their efforts finally began to pay off.

Japan was a good experience for them and they know that. Now they've been through both worlds. One world was a world where they've achieved fame and popularity overnight. One world is a world where they've started from scratch and worked their way to the top. Victory only tastes so sweet when a lot of efforts were involved in the process and there was hardship to achieve that very success. Being the grateful people that they are I'm sure they treasure the achievements they had in Korean but even more so to the achievements they've worked hard for in Japan. The days of living dangerously seem to be over. Their experiences were not the only ones but I talk about them because I only see them.

This will probably be my last cheesy post about them and may be last public post period. I began to feel like I'm repeating these things like a mantra. Then again I also lied about not doing polls again. At any rate, I can only wish them to shine even brighter and brighter for they're like little jewels I love, like that of a family, like the little brothers I never had. May the force be with DBSK.

Comments

[info]arakasu wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)
Well said ^^ *claps* I agree with you.
[info]sabrono wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:29 am (UTC)
OMG U HAVE THE SAME MIND AS MINE!
i jst finished watching star show and yes my fav part was the end. it was TO shrt!
and i gt really teary :( yes im a loser! it mst be hard on them. their popularity is really diff in Korea and Japan.
honestly,their kind hearts and effort is the reason i respect them so much.
[info]under_an_oak wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:29 am (UTC)
Lovely post, and I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks so. That interview really made me take a step back and raised my respect for them to whole new levels. Yeah, I think they're hot, they dance and sing well etc, but I admit, my respect for them is just as deep as my love. It shames me, in a way, to witness how hard the boys work and here I am, bitching about how difficult my life is.

Toho Fighting!
[info]j3ssicas wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:36 am (UTC)
i have to say.. you said it all too well! especially about the part where they have been through both worlds and about victory is only tasted when efforts been put in.. after watching and reading your i guess analysis, I think the boys have come a long way and I'm really proud of them! Thanks for posting your thoughts! I enjoyed..GO DBSK!!
[info]misnomeko wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:37 am (UTC)
Some of the things they talked about in the Star Show interview kind of opened my eyes. I never really got why they cried during Proud at the FitB tour finale until hearing them talk about the hardships and disappointments they had to go through to be where they are today in Japan. I felt really bad for them when they talked about the depression they fell into when they first moved to Japan. But they persevered and only showed the fans their happy faces. They make me proud to be their fan.
[info]cynsinnn wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 05:39 am (UTC)
I was just watching the star show a few minutes ago, and the last moments really stuck a chord with me. I get what you mean totally, even if it seems 'cheesy', its really true, and as mere fans we are really unable to fathom what the boys are going through with every release, with every fanmeet and damn... I love them all the more now <3 As Tohoshinki, and TVXQ, as just who they are.
[info]bellishness wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:06 am (UTC)
I def. wouldn't mind more of these kinds of posts! I wholeheartedly agree. ♥♥

I was really touched too when I watched that portion of Star King. If I were in that situation, I doubt if I'd be able to make it. The boys are just... really really strong people. It takes a lot of strength to get through an experience like that. ♥♥♥
[info]jjluvuknow wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:07 am (UTC)
I almost cried during this segment of the show. It was really hard to watch even for a fan. This one of the reason why I love TVXQ as much as I do ~~~
[info]arbitraryeffigy wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:18 am (UTC)
I haven't watched the Star Show yet, but that is also the same part I'm looking forward to. I've heard much written about their hardships from Japan, but never got around to watching videos of them actually talking about it. But, oddly, even though I haven't heard of those 'hardship' talks of theirs, I kinda got that vibe when I listened to 'Proud.' First time I heard it, I was like 'Wow, this is a pretty painful song. This is definitely dedicated to the fans. The lyrics are like ;___;.' Then, when I read about them having trouble starting in Japan, and then noticing around when Proud was released, it all made sense. Then, on FITB, I literally bawled like a baby >.<. It really was tough for them. lol i digress so much.

But that's what I love about them. They have a distinct humility to them that is completely lost to their contemporaries of similar standing in the music industry. Because they were humbled so much, they didn't lose themselves; they're still like real, down-to-earth people. Like my friend says, 'they didn't let it get to their heads.' So, even though it was bitter for them, I am thankful for it. They are amazing because of it. :D
[info]jaemint wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:28 am (UTC)
ia. kudos to you for this post. ^^b
[info]fi_chan wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:29 am (UTC)
Beautifully said!
I'm really tired right now so I can't get my brain together to say anything meaningful... but thank you!! Couldn't agree more!
[info]arbitraryeffigy wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:36 am (UTC)
lol random but...
I love your icon. <3
AND I WILL FOREVER BE INDEBTED TO JAE FOR BRINGING SMEX!Chun back teeheeheehee
[info]fi_chan wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 08:33 am (UTC)
Re: lol random but...
haha thanks~ ^^

I originally made it as an explanation for Chun's scary Yamaha!hair but it fits numerous circumstances now I guess... lol~
[info]ainokisu wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:33 am (UTC)
im deeply touched by your entry...

yesterday, i went back to watch a few of their videos when they first started out in japan with their "welfare japanese" as my friend kindly puts it...

i'm so proud of what they have accomplished and all the bridges they have crossed through their hard work. <3
[info]psychedelicred wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:49 am (UTC)
thanks for posting something like this up. i watched all 3 volumes of history in japan and saw the whole transition of tohoshinki. i'm really glad that they are already half way there. it's only a matter of time that they will take over the world. ahaha. that's if they can accomplish that before serving their national service.
[info]jayceeee wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 07:32 am (UTC)
i love this entry <3

*runs off to watch HIJ again*
[info]jelleus wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 09:14 am (UTC)
aish! thank you so much! i didn't get to watch the last part of star show because it isn't subbed. im really grateful to you because now i understand wht they are talking about the last part of the show!

arigatou!
[info]wanderingreen wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 09:28 am (UTC)
WORD.

And I noticed Ho getting emotional too. I was sort of confused when the MC asked Jae to give the concluding "future plans" speech rather than leader-sshi, but than the camera panned to him and he looked almost teary *pets*
[info]newradgirl wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 10:05 am (UTC)
I agree to almost everything except your comment about Stay with me tonight (I love it). That aside, I love this entry. All their hard work are paying off and I am so proud of them, to be their fan. They deserve the success that they're getting. I am sure that if they ever try to break in other continents, they will give the same amount of effort, or even more.

When I watched their "Proud" performance in FiTB I cried with Yoochun adn totally lost it when Junsu cried. I knew why they were crying...all those days/nights singing infront of a handful of people, the sacrfices they made, leaving Korea...it all paid off. Because they've made it.

I have so much respect and love for these boys.

Thank you for such a lovely, meaningful post.
[info]strawberrychair wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 10:14 am (UTC)
Yeshhh -weeps- Haha, it must have been a tough time,hesitating about their actions and career in Japan. They are popular in korean but not in Japan then. But it's good that they are more recognised now =)
stay with me tonight is not a bad song, just that it's not good enough to gain attention XD

If only they started with BEGIN XD whahaha
MY FAVORITE XD
[info]yue_yue wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 10:22 am (UTC)
I want to cry at how you describe it...I feel so sad for them..I remember they talked about the depression on ysmm..I was so sad
but japan was a good experience, because now they stayed..how to express it...normal. they don't act like some diva stars who gained the fame over night
[info]alilad wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 11:29 am (UTC)
Such a meaningful post...
I felt the same things as u did. They've worked their way up from the bottom, and we as fans r really proud of them. Regardless of their fame now, they remain humble. That's the true quality of a star... :)
[info]cherrieeme wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
*APPLAUSE
*BRAVO!

that was *THUMBS UP!

seriuosly DBSK is SO DAMN GOOD. going to japan and starting form scratch D: you know i told my mum and she gave me this face liek she didnt believe me or i was reading off a false source DD:

it seemed to be somehting really hard to do =\
GO YOU~

[info]youjuchan wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 03:06 pm (UTC)
at first thanks for sharing this!
when i watched star show i felt so sad when they were talking about their experiences in the first years they were in japan.. you could see the sadness in their eyes when they were talking about it
i just know them for about 2 years now (but i became a 'hardcore' fan when i saw their five in the black concert about 1 year ago) so i dont really know how they began their career in japan.. but when i listened to them talking about this issue i felt like crying.. thinking about them wanting to give up i was so thankful for all the fans and all the support they got so they realise how much love they really recieve and deserve!
i'm just happy that they are the person they are now because this is why we love them <3
TVXQ hwaiting~!!
[info]red_planet31 wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 03:10 pm (UTC)
I agree with your post. I hate seeing DBSK feeling down but in some way, I think Japan was a necessary experience from them. And I'm glad they managed to succeed in Japan.
Dong Bang Shin Ki Hwaiting!!
[info]tvxqpiano wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 03:19 pm (UTC)
you couldn't have said it better. *standing ovation*
[info]mahkceb wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
yeah~ totally felt the heartache now tat u actually talk abt it again. i mean i realised it some time back and my heart totally shattered when i came to the realization of the hard fact. whatever it is, i'm glad they stuck with it, been through it, and come out a better band that possibly ever will be. ^^

however, no offence intended, i bet to differ with ur statement at the end of all heartaches:
One world was a world where they've achieved fame and popularity overnight. One world is a world where they've started from scratch and worked their way to the top.
i'm not exactly sure which is which, but in any case i think (IMO) that our boys, in either of the countries, have started from scratch, worked extremely hard, and then finally get to the top. if they were shot to fame overnight, i do not think they would have come this far, or more particularly, go very far. :)

just my 2 cents worth. ^^
[info]_happy_as_rain_ wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah... that's the way I feel too. I really really can't bring myself to watch HIJ1 or even listen or watch Stay with me tonight. :( It's really just painful. I remember that one episode of Music Japan (with that host whose a fan & the daughter of the comedian who loves to copy Junsu :D) and she showed them a clip of Stay With Me Tonight and Jaejoong said he was really embarrassed and I was like, yeah me too. But you know what, they really really really got so far from that. I seriously feel like that's the way it is with CSJH right now... they're really not doing well in Japan. :( They deserve way more attention that that.
[info]blithefizz wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
thank you for the entry. :) i haven't watched that part of star show but am looking forward to it.
i do agree that that their success in Japan was hard earned, but they really did deserve it for they have improved so much since they started out. their perseverance and humility never really impressed me and im just really proud of the success they now have.
[info]itsukanomelody wrote:
May. 30th, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
you know what? that's exacly what it hough when i started to think of them recieving firt no.1 on oricon. i had a long night of wondering about their popularity back then. and i shared these thouhhts with my best friend. now, you wrote them here. thank you for that <3 i hate to 100% agree with you. now, they are proud. cuz they gained a lot because of japan. i think tnow THIS is what gives them the biggest satisfaction. They did break through, they made a lot of people ;ove them with their hard work. This is what makes them real artists.

Now, their Korean debut was bit different. They got loved quickly. Now we observe similar thing with new band, ShinEE. They had that pretty huge fanbase even before debuting. And now people go all crazy about them. i don't mean it's bad, but real taste of winning over audience is like what DBSK did in Japan.

peace! <3
[info]astridlinga wrote:
May. 31st, 2008 12:20 am (UTC)
[info]jaejuu wrote:
May. 31st, 2008 12:41 am (UTC)
Very well put, this is why I love and respect DBSK so much <3
[info]scar13t wrote:
May. 31st, 2008 02:13 am (UTC)
dude i bet everyone was really sad when they watched the end of star show and they showed the part where the boys were crying at budokan. i knew it was hard for them to get to where they are today, but i don't think anyone really knew how hard it was. i cried watching them cry singing proud. sounds lame but it happened. i just can't bare watching them cry. and now i don't think i can watch that without being emotional knowing what a big turn of events that was for them.
[info]usagi_bara wrote:
May. 31st, 2008 03:39 pm (UTC)
<3!

[info]perriwynkkle wrote:
May. 31st, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
All of the honesty and humble-ness DBSK showed and revealed to us in that interview made me want to just bawl like an idiot. I have never, in my whole 20 years of life, ever seen a band as talented, hard-working, and driven as they all are. There is just something about them...an aura that no-one (even the haters) cannot deny, that makes them truely, the biggest international stars.
[info]sy_ya wrote:
Jun. 1st, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
*claps*

Thanks for sharing this.
[info]chloe1910 wrote:
Jun. 2nd, 2008 11:41 am (UTC)
Hear Hear ajumma!!!
[info]iheartuknow wrote:
Jun. 2nd, 2008 09:56 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't mind if you repeat this over and over again, they deserve it. After their hard times, the world should recognize their efforts and cheer them on. True, ppl will move on and more groups will come out later, but DBSK will always be special, something that can't be replaced. You are right, they are like our family, we care for them and wish the best for them~

Do more polls, i love them~ they are so fun! hehe, *waits for private posts* :p
[info]bar_u wrote:
Jun. 8th, 2008 10:48 pm (UTC)
i'm so impressed from this post. i wish my english was better to express myself but, i really egree with you. i adore them so much.. and i totally think the same way.
it made me think...here in Israel, we have a fanclub and all...but it's so hard to poll new fans into it...so hard, i wish DBSK would go out to the world, i've never seen a band like this, they, they are just amazing, with the greatest personality, each one of them. i love them so much...and it makes me fell sad knowing they are so unreachable.
[info]ayako_in_love wrote:
Jun. 26th, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)
um.. hi ^^ I'm always very interested in your comments in dbsg comm and I like what I read ^^ Thanks to you I learnt many things aout DBSK ^^ Thank you :* So since I admire you I finally decided to check your lj ^^' I hope you don't mind that XP

After watching Star Show I was thinking about it too.. and I have similar thoughts :) It made me all sad thinking how hard their lifes are and how many difficulties they had to overcome.. but it makes me extremely happy that they did! They're stronger and better people now ^^ I think those expiriences were necessary.. thanks to that hard time, succes hadn't gone to their heads ^^' I'm really proud of them and respect them ^^ Now I understand fully why they were so motional durin final stage of FitB tour ^^' Now it can only be better ne?
oh.. and I think that it wasn't their fault that at the begining they haven't got many fans... I think it was mostly Avex's fault.. because they gave them not very good songs... Maybe if they had better songs they would gain popularity faster ^^' but with that what they had back ten they did great :)after reading this enty I realized that I forgot to watch History in Japan 1 so I made up yesterday... and I felt embarassed too... I almost couldn't watch it... those outfits... T__T and only few people on a-nation cheering for them T__T

really sorry for my english, but it's not my first and I' still learning ^^'
btw.. could I add you to my f-list? I'm very interested in what you write and think about Dong Bang boys.. and not only about them ^^
[info]ajumma wrote:
Jun. 30th, 2008 12:26 am (UTC)
My f-lock posts are mostly about Jaeho. =)
[info]ayako_in_love wrote:
Jul. 6th, 2008 07:25 pm (UTC)
If you don't mind I don't mind either XD
[info]moon0319 wrote:
Jun. 30th, 2008 11:56 am (UTC)
happy birthday dear.. may all your wishes come true.. Have a wonderful birthday
[info]joongie_boo07 wrote:
Jun. 30th, 2008 03:53 pm (UTC)
HAAAAPPPY BIRTTHDAAAY.

THE EVER JAEHO GENIUS AJUMMA! :3

*blowshorn*

:D ilusm, for spreading the jaeho love and for contributing to the looove! :D THAAAANKS! <3
[info]tine_cheese wrote:
Jul. 18th, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)
TT_TT that was very emotional. I totally agree 100%! The boys are hard workers! And they have the potential and talent to even let the whole world know who they are! ^0^ I can see them now...performing everwhere. ^____^
[info]siriusmoonpup wrote:
Jul. 31st, 2008 01:36 pm (UTC)
Ah i just backtracked on YWH and saw one of your thoughtful posts and i love those kind of posts, especially when i got read all of the fans' answers. It's really interesting. So i decided to check out your LJ =D and lo and behold XD another interesting post!

I agree with you completely. After watching the show, i felt even more proud of the boys. I duno...this is the first time that i have felt so much for a group of singers. Like...for some reason i feel as if they're REAL (if you get what i mean), that they are human beings who suffer too. All their hardships just make me love them even more.

Mmm can i friend you? o.O you seem to be a very great Yunjae fan hehe i HEART your icon =D

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